Saturday, January 10, 2009

Waking Up to Abu Mazen's Rotten Voice...

To my rotten luck, I had to wake up and see Palestinian Authority President, Mahmoud Abbas speak.

Abbas is still speaking about peace. He also seems to have forgotten that it is by resistance the Palestinians bulldozed their way into getting international recognition of their existence. Abbas simply wants the Egyptian Initiative which cripples the Palestinians, places high restrictions on Gaza, and doesn't condemn the war crimes committed by Israel.

Not in a life time of a war, specially against a war machinery that kills over 780 citizens in two weeks (excluding the fact that over 400 wounded Palestinian are in critical situation, with 150 Palestinians reported missing), we see a president doing lip service to Israel in order to halt the war, and argue that he wants peace by all costs. We all know that such peace will dismantle whatever chances the Palestinians have to fight for their rights.

Abbas also forgot that diplomacy with the Zionists brings nothing good. Yasser Arafat tried diplomacy and ended up living his final years in confinement in Ramallah. Abbas had been giving the Israelis everything they need, now if Abbas is AWARE that nothing good comes out, then Abbas is simply thinking for the short-run, which is to eradicate any competitor to Fatah. Abbas also so far got nothing from the Israelis except fancy pictures with a stupid American President, Mr. Bush. The fastest question to the PA, if there were no resistance, how is Abbas able to negotiate?

Now if we assume that Abbas is really dumb, then I am not surprised. Yasser Arafat's death left a lot of void in his party. Like a one man show, Arafat was everything, and always refused to delegate or empowers his senior party members. I guess it is understandable that Abbas was the one who did the morning coffee to Arafat. For this reason, it is not surprising that Abbas appears to think that way, disregarding the Zionist butchery and simply focus on Hamas, and argue that 'Peace is under threat'

Disgusting...someone bring Abbass back to Planet Earth...

MFL

12 comments:

Renegade Eye said...

It's the lead story on the news here as well.

He is calling for an international force to observe a ceasefire? Who'd do that?

Unfortunately Hamas is depending on the loser strategy, that Islamic masses will rebel in the streets.

Iran and Syria are planning deals with Obama. Syria will probably ax Hezbollah, in exchange for Golan Heights. Iran will bury Hamas. Abbas will have no say.

Countries have no friends, only interests.

Renegade Eye said...

What I meant is Obama plans to have talks about Palestine, with Israel and the Arab leaders. Abbas will be an observer.

MarxistFromLebanon said...

I doubt Syria will sell out Hezbollah , because Hezbollah's allegiance is to Iran , Syria is their partner...

Hamas is a different story, Israel will never end Hamas, because they need wars to continue...

Also, everyone are astonished that Hamas are gaining grounds in popularity because they are saying the correct claims politically against Israel, unlike Fatah... and I don't know how the media is depicting Hamas, but in Arab channels, all their speeches are till the last drop of blood they will fight, most of the palestinians bombed are becoming pro-Hamas, as I argued earlier, Israel's policy is to empower Hamas...

MFL

Renegade Eye said...

Deep down I agree with you. Hamas's tactics are a gift to Israel.

Israel never said they were regime change.

On the other hand, Hamas doesn't want to end Zionism, only negotiate with it.

MarxistFromLebanon said...

Well,

They are,
Hamas as a matter of fact wouldn't mind ending Zionism and Israel ... it is deeply embedded in their ideology, restore Historic Palestine, that is why Arabic channels show sympathy to Hamas by stating: Palestinians are defending themselves in their own land against invaders till this very day...

Renegade Eye said...

They play a role like Hezbollah, last year. They would shot up Lebanon, then were satisfied to take a few administrative positions in the government.

They want to be favored by Israel instead of Abbas.

MarxistFromLebanon said...

Not to sound as the primary defender of the Hezbollah group, but they entered the government to safeguard their rights to carry Arms (Hezbollah)...

During the Syrian Mandate, they didn't need that...but in 2005, the 14th of March coalition were putting immense pressure on them to disarm...

Darko said...

Well first things first, WHAT THE HELL??
where have you been? i honestly believed that something wrong has happened to you, the leat could have done is write something on your mflpersonnal.
Anywayz, Glad you're back bro!

To answer your article, i'ld say that if anything positive could come out of this conflict, it's the total exposure of arab regimes. Onsi AlHaj said it best, yesterday in Al-Akhbar
”now more then anytime before in Arab history, it is time to change everything. Let us wash our hands and burry history. If the current situation do not produce revolutionaries who will create an era of freedom and dignity and justice , then the degeneration will continue infinitely”
Arab masses taking to the streets wont change anything, we need action, and as a leftist, I find myself concurrence with parts of the agendas of Islamic movements these days. What we need to do is not attack these movements, cause this will only distract attention from the battle at hand. What we can do is lend our support now, be it political, economical or physical and at the same time try to regain credibility in front of the populous to try and recover them from radical mindsets. Hope I’m making myself clear.
Again I’m very glad you’re back, and waiting to read the justifications for such hostile actions.
Hey, were you by any chance at khaled al haber album signing??
Welcome back “comrade”
P.S: can you do something about the way we comment on your blog, this pop up thingy does not always work and being secure requests(https), it takes ages to load

Renegade Eye said...

Darko: Read the post at my blog.

The Islamists don't have a program to win. The idea of scacrificing innocent civilians, hoping for a spontaneous uprising, maybe in the West Bank against Fatah is a loser strategy.

Shooting rockets at poor and working class Israelis, that usually miss hitting anything is not a revolutionary program.

If Hamas was serious, it would arm the working class, every factory, school and neighborhood. The Islamists are as afraid of palestinian workers as of Israel.

Nothing would be better for Gaza, then revolution in Egypt.

Socialism or barbarism.

For a Socialist Federation of Middle Eastern States.

Handala said...

Renegade, saying that hamas is sacrificing innocent civilians, is blaming it for the dead. You're fallen for western propaganda. Israel is the one who's bombing civilians and demanding the surrender of hamas. By your logic, hamas should lay down its weapons and accept the Israeli demands.
As far as i'm concerned, this is your poor and working class of Israel
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/01/dancing-in-streets-of-israel-remember.html

Why do the non-middle eastern communists always try to equate between the Palestinian and Israeli working class. Like it or not, this inst a class war, its very simple, this our land and they came in and settled in it and kicked us out by force and terrorism, as far as i'm concerned the working class of Israel can pack up and leave. And if we were to compare the stat of the working class among Palestinians and Zionist, we would notice that both of them cannot be classified in the same class, Palestinians are in a worst stat.

And i think you misunderstood what i said before. I was actually talking about revolutions against all Arab regimes, not specifically in Palestine. This includes, egypt, syria, ksa, jordan.....


Handala a.k.a. Darko

MarxistFromLebanon said...

Hi Darko and Renegade

My 2 cents on the issue...

Renegade, currently, Hamas had established its grounds on the suffering of the Palestinians, by giving them welfarism (38% of the Palestinians depend on the welfare state), mentioning the turmoils of the Palestinians whereas Fatah disregards them, and monopolized the resistance from the hands of Secular Habash's PFLP to theirs...

Between Hamas and Fatah, Hamas currently appears to be the lesser evil... Just like the July war, Hezbollah were accused of using citizens as human shields, to which you replied that "you want them to wear bulls eyes on their back?"... Islamists they are, but Hamas as I mentioned in an earlier post also integrated the nationalist dimension into question.... The Zionists' operations are strengthening Hamas just as they did in the 1970s, strengthening the ancestors of Hamas (Muslim Brotherhood) in order to weaken the PLO. Now, Hamas is the new 'enemy' for Zionism.... and Zionism needs Hamas, as a matter of fact, Zionism's entire activities are to hurt Fatah and empower Hamas. In the long-run, neither Hamas nor Fatah are progressive, but currently Hamas succeeded into promoting itself as a National Liberation Army, just like Hezbollah. Just like Hezbollah, their popularity is growing. Hamas are not using the "Die for Islam" logo, rather "the right for the existence of Palestinian existence". Unlike the Israeli proletariat, the Palestinian Proletariat are facing extinction, a footnote that exists in the Zionist platform since its first day of foundation.
Now, in regards to equating the suffering, Renegade, I cannot equate the suffering of both. The Palestinian proletariat are suffering way more and require all the immediate attention they get, after all, by tomorrow, the number of martyrs will be 1000, and each murdered Palestinian to be blamed on the IDF. Arafat tried the peace initiative with them, he ended up cornered in his HQ for the last two years of his life. Every peace treaty Fatah proposed, was met with bulldozers and new fake settlements elsewhere throughout the occupied Palestinian lands. I find it alarming that our fellow comrades elsewhere in the world are not mentioning the brutal siege of Gaza, the apartheid wall, and the day to day expulsions of the Palestinians. Renegade, between Hamas and Fatah, Hamas are the lesser evil, much to my dislike, because I would have preferred Habash's PFLP. But they are echoing the woes of the Palestinians, unlike Mahmoud Abass, who is too busy to safeguard his political points, not condemning Egypt for leaving the Palestinians of Gaza starving almost to death, and barely mentioning Israeli brutality and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. We have to understand, the Holocaust took place in WWII, but the fact that Jews are always the victims , we need to be liberated from that. The current Jewish proletariat are victims to the Zionist elites, yes! We need to unite the Jewish Proletariat and the Palestinian Proletariat as one, I definitely agree, but currently, the Palestinian proletariat are being ethnically cleansed, like in 1998 in Kosovo. Like Kosovo, this requires immediate action of halting and condemning Israel's brutal force, and providing excuses for Hamas to fire their tiny rockets in reaction of what is happening around them. I would also like to say that Israel as an entity is a fake entity because it was established on ethnic grounds, and the whole world shouldn't forget that because the impact of 1948 still echoes today on day to day politics. Its on-going brutality is what strenghthens the Islamists, and they do not find popularity out of the blues, but for what they are offering the people there.
Darko, I tend to disagree, this is a class war par excellence. The war against Hamas is a war for profits and a lame excuse for Israel to maximize its funding from the US. Most of the Jewish proletariat were promised better lives, and ended up suffering in Israel. They are the victims of their leaderships who successfully managed to promote an extremist nationalist ideology against the Jews, successfully divided the Palestinian Jews and non-Palestinian Jews in the past by force, and the leaders use the "threat of Jewish extinction" to gather supporters. From the other side, the Palestinians have two forms of leaderships that are struggling for power, and amidst all this, the Proletariat, and to be specific the Palestinian Proletariat are suffering. My own family was expelled from Palestine in 1948, and to this day I hold the title deeds of my family's properties, and clutch to the right of return into my homelands over there. This is the dilemma which we face, but my comrades over there informed me that the town my family was expelled from is still empty since 1948, and our house in Jerusalem is a military post for the IDF. My family clutches for their right of return. The Zionists imported a lot of Jewish proletariat back in the early 20th century, and we should never forget that this movement got away from ethnic cleansing.
Unlike several radical movements in Lebanon, I totally oppose of doing to the Jews what they have done to the Palestinians in 1948, and the on-going torture the Palestinians are suffering this very day. As difficult as it is today to sustain such a view on the political level, I am certain that the Palestinians' only shot for salvation lies in the growing contradiction between Zionist and non-Zionist Jews. The rifts are growing from the inside, and our real shot begins once military confrontation takes place between the Zionists and the non-Zionists, and specially people are liberated from the Israeli Defense Forces, where there they have the brainwashing that Palestinians are not really humans, and they occupied Israel for 2000 years, .... etc.
Renegade, we cannot equate the Israeli to Hamas, not at the size of such atrocities. Like in 2006, Lebanon was hailed by everyone for its victory against Israel, but unlike Lebanon, the Palestinians are facing an issue of existence. They have to have a minimum political representation we are able to build our own forces across the ethnic lines, as we should.
No War but Class War...
MFL

Renegade Eye said...

I agree with your overall analysis.

I suppose a nonviable state is better than none.

I bet if Israelis could decide, they would reject a Jewish state. After WWII Jewish identity meant something different than today. There is nothing unique in Jewish identity, that modern capitalism doesn't dole out to anyone. In the days when Jews ran Hollywood, because Christianity taught show biz was sin. You don't have that anymore.

All Hamas has to do is survive to be declared winner.

Palestine needs great generals.