Sunday, July 27, 2008

Not the Final Chapter of the July War

I have not been blogging due to personal obligations but intended to return blogging in two months. Now, that a lot of events took place, I have no choice but to write...

Introduction and Cont'd of an Earlier Article

Last year, I wrote extensive analysis in "Lessons from the July War". Now, the main logo of Hezbollah for launching their July War "Operation Honest Promise" was achieved. Israel gave Hezbollah Samir Quntar in return for their two soldiers, who so far, we didn't know what happened to them till the last moment.
In Israel, the primary question was bombarded on Olmert and his allies as follows: "Why did we enter a war if there was going to be a swipe?" Hence, what started Israel's humiliation in 2000, aggravated in 2006, and climaxed in the liberation of Lebanon's national hero, Samir Quntar, a man who symbolized resistance to the Zionists, and resilience to the Zionists' attempts to crush the soul of resistance.

Samir Quntar argued in TV that his 1978 operation, the hostages were shot by Israeli soldiers. While the Israeli media hovered around how their government released him, the whole media of the world forgot how many Lebanese children the Israelis have cold-bloodedly butchered. Of course, whenever the pictures of our massacred children pop up the news, the Israelis rudely accuse the Lebanese as "faking" the picture.

The Israeli media also accused Nasrallah as shrewd, since he considered the liberation of Samir Quntar as a national victory. This was not the first time, when the Lebanese ousted the Israeli Defense Forces and their puppies, the Southern Lebanese Army, from Lebanese soil, Nasrallah argued it was a victory for the resistance, Lebanon, the Muslims, and the entire Arab World. The fact all the Lebanese politicians were there to welcome Quntar and the last Hezbollah soldiers, reflected the dimension of the long awaited victory of Samir Quntar, whom we were raised to hear his name: the man whose will never shook down.

Brief Bolshevik Point

Now for me, as a revolutionary Marxist, we oppose individual acts of operations from the view point that such operations aggravate the unity of the Proletariat across borders, hence our unity as Lebanese Proletariat, with the residents of Occupied Palestine and Israel minus the Arab reactionary leaders and the Zionists. We believe in longer run emancipation tactics which requires more patience while focusing on welfare policies and women empowerment in the short-run. What I would respect about Samir Quntar is what he did inside the Israeli prisons. The man was named "Dean of the Prisoners" not because he is the oldest of prisoners, rather, his activism inside the Israeli prisons. He was the one who organized informal networks inside Israeli prisons across nationalities whereby the prisoners self-educated themselves, resisted Israeli pressure to break the will of the prisoners, and always held their heads high in the face of Zionist brutalities.

Impact of Samir Quntar's release

The release of Samir Quntar was greeted by over a million Lebanese (mainly) citizens, among a small minority of others. Quntar's freedom brought Lebanon to the 1970s nostalgia where dreamers hoped for the crush of Israel and liberation of Palestine whereby the Palestinians can finally and peacefully return to their homes. This nostalgia which witnessed the PLO and other radical factions waging operations against Israel also included the factions of the Lebanese National Front, and the Lebanese Resistance Front (whose three pillars were the SSNP – LCP – Order for Communist Action). Now my personal opinion is known, I oppose the ideological demands of the Lebanese National Movement, while I oppose their tactics, specially going blindly behind the PLO. The higher euphoria, in the words of Jubran Arayji, an SSNP top official to NBN," was the belief in your own platform to be actualized".
While Israel wept, Lebanon celebrated. The Israelis in a pathetic manner tried to show that the Lebanese are barbaric while they are a civilized nation surviving this barbaric world is the fact that the Lebanese danced, celebrated, while Hassan Nasrallah did a sudden appearance in the festivalities to greet his own soldiers and Samir Quntar. Quntar, for a man living 30 years in prisons, always kept his head up and till now he doesn't show his real age, 47. The insistence of Quntar to remain wearing his military suit showed to what extent his will remained unbroken.

Dancing Coffins

The Israelis also were baffled on how the Lebanese and Palestinians welcomed the martyrs' bodies with rice, dancing, and flowers. To this Perez called our traditions as "shameful". The Lebanese and the Palestinians, from years of agony, learnt to welcome their beloved in a "marriage" ceremonial manner. Several Muslim and Christian traditions of funerals included whistling, dancing, clapping, throwing rice, and "dancing the coffin" whereby the people carrying the coffin get the coffin to move up and down which appears dancing. The purpose of such a process is to pay tribute to the deceased. When Samir Qassir was buried, his coffin was dancing amidst flying flowers, wedding singing called "Zalghota" in Arabic, amongst others. When George Hawwi, the ex-stalinist Communist Party leader was assassinated, everyone clapped and danced as the men "danced the coffins". Such traditions are a tribute to the deceased and paying respect. The second significance is to show for the deceased and whoever wanted him/her dead that the people are not weeping, rather they do a wedding instead of a funeral to pay respect because one popular culture includes the belief that the deceased do not want their beloved to cry for them, rather they should celebrate and rejoice. The final reason for such festivities is to prove to the deceased and to recharge amongst them that they are celebrating instead of mourning because the person involved is not dead, rather still alive in their hearts. And that is how the Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians welcomed the deceased martyrs' bodies.

Israel yet again Humiliated

Now for the celebrations of what that ugly Levni proclaimed as shameful welcome of a criminal, the Lebanese are over-joyous in welcoming a hero who made the enemy cry on their knees after killing over 60,000 Lebanese, across the years, displacing over a quarter of citizens (in 2006), and eventually proving how stupid she and her country is. They waged a war on the Lebanese, called it "War on Hezbollah" which included the killing of everyone except Hezbollah in general, such as the red cross, the foreign journalists, the Lebanese Army, and the Police, and even three members of Hezbollah's archenemies: the Lebanese Forces. Hence, that war was everything but a war on Hezbollah. The other dimension is that almost the entire Lebanese citizens across political and sectarian lines in one way or another cooperated to contain the Southern exodus. Even Palestinian camps such as Ain el Hilwi welcomed Lebanese fleeing under bombardment their homes for safety. After all, Israel used the refugee buses as target practice. Shameful and uncivilized. Hence, how can Lebanon not welcome Samir Quntar as a hero, or even as a liberator, who proved to the Lebanese and Palestinians that the Israelis are ineffective to do anything right? He even inspired to others that Israel's days are countable, so many believed that thought, happily to see their Southern racist neighbor drowning in tears, same people whose media forgot to announce how many they killed of children in Palestine and Lebanon, forgot to compare Israel's operation to Palestine in 1948 to Milosevic's ethnic cleansing in 1999 to Kosovo. In one of those few occasions Lebanon celebrated in joy and happiness while Tel Aviv drowned in tears.
Israeli reactions to the Lebanese victory were different in several manners. For starters, the Israeli intelligence added Samir Quntar's name to be assassinated next to Nasrallah. After all, Lebanon shouldn't go against the flow of Arab regimes trying to convince that Israel is here to stay. Reactions from normal Israeli citizens within Israeli media demanded that the next war with Lebanon have Beirut leveled down. I have news to them, in the last war, half of it was already leveled down. Finally, to the families of the deceased soldiers, they should expect such operations when they are wearing the military suit.

Israel since the year 2000 has had their victories cut short. All of Israel is in a way trained soldiers because all its citizens should serve the Israeli Defense Forces. Hence such an operation impacted them in 2006 because each citizen thought to himself/herself "It could have been me or my relatives". Well, to them, start changing your racist policies if you want legitimacy within your neighborhoods.

Impacts of Hezbollah and Lebanese Victory

While the entire cabinet of different political parties gathered in the airport , Israel tried to downsize Lebanon's happiness as "Nasrallah has the entire Lebanese as hostages". If that is true, I love Israel's way of dealing with a hostage crisis, burn the entire country to kingdom come (2006).

Hezbollah have been in a winning since 2000. They ousted the Israelis outside Lebanon in 2000 and proclaimed themselves as the descendants of the Resistance front forged by the Lebanese Communist Party and Order for Communist Action, and followed by the Syrian Social Nationalist Party. However, the latter three's leaders were marginalized and persecuted by Syria. In the words of one Iranian Diplomat during the July war to Ahmad Fatat, "we the Iranians learnt how to resist from the Christians, such as George Habbash and George Hawwi." Hezbollah by 2004 proved their complete dominance over the Bekaa and South in municipalities elections whereby AMAL movement's influence was downsized. In the end, Syria had to intervene to face-save their allies AMAL. Hence, Hezbollah officially dominated the Shiite sect while AMAL became a relative minority. The defeat of 2006 of Israel on the infantry level reflected how the underdogs caught up with the giants. Israel's army is not indestructible. The assassination of Imad Moghnieh was again a defeat to Israel even if it is not 100% confirmed that they assassinated him. Hezbollah's alliance to the Christian bloc, the Free Patriotic Movement, moved them away from isolation as well as a Shiite sect. Their military power also remained undisputed in Lebanon when they swept Beirut against 14th of March in one evening, while Mt. Lebanon collapsed in two hours. Hence, they got the demands they have been requesting: Red lines on Hezbollah's arms, no Western power can oust Hezbollah out, got the national unity government they needed to veto any governmental decisions that might touch their arms. Finally, to complete Hezbollah's euphoria, they did the impossible and liberated Samir Quntar and left the Israelis feeling canned inside their borders. The timing of Samir Quntar was marked with the 2nd memory of the July war.
The liberation of Samir Quntar was highly valuable for Israel. Their 2006 across borders operation was called "The Honest Promise", which means the promise to liberate Samir Quntar. Olmert and his goons crumbled down at timing more perfect for Hezbollah. For starters, they pulled Lebanon in a euphoria outside the last civil war we had couple of months ago and diverted attention to this blunder operation they did whereby retribution will take a long run form between the Sunnis and Druze and the Shiites. Their and their allies' vulgar behavior "as peaceful" diverted to the liberation of Samir Quntar. Trying to erase the breach in their promise "no weapon shall be turned to the inside of Lebanon", they proved that they are the only force to inflict defeat on Israel and their arms are still needed.

As a matter of fact, the pro-14th of March are trying to pull a symbolic victory by getting Shebaa farms diplomatically. Second, Samir Quntar's allegiance to Hezbollah was also what they needed. After all, Quntar spent his time reading Israeli media, whereas the most hated to them were Hezbollah, hence, they became his favorites, specially they were the ones who liberated him. So, whereas March 14th accused Hezbollah to ignite the July war in 2006 to protect their allies Syria from the International Tribunal, now got their promise actualized and diverted attention that the war was not about Syria's attention. Although, Bashar Assad's hypocritical attitude celebrating the July war as the real victor on the ashes of Lebanon is quiet lame. Sadly, Quntar supported Syria blindly without investigating what has happened during their era. Hopefully he will have much more time to do so to fill the gap.

Now the term resistance became over-charged, Ali Kanso was bragging that the SSNP will not surrender their weapons because it is "Arms for Resistance" although we didn't see a single shot directed on Israel all this time except on other Lebanese. The election of Assad Herdan as SSNP president shows the partial return of the Syrians, and the military urgency that the SSNP are currently living in especially several Ras Beirut zones are still within the newly resurrected SSNP cantons. Hence, Hezbollah's allies are now justified to preserve their weapons while leaving the 14th of Marchers in another security dilemma to rebuild their forces, hence a new showdown coming soon within the next decade.

Now, Hezbollah can behave the Judge and Executioner if things don't go the way they don't like. Simply unleash the AMAL movement goons on those supporters.

More to the point, Hezbollah's victories have an impact on the Arab region and the World as a whole. Most of the Arab regime, dictators like Egypt's Moubarak, Jordan's King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia's al-Saud, Qatar's Hamad bin Khalifa al Thani, and most recently Iraq's Maliki, among others, are having aftermaths of Hezbollah and Lebanon's victories. While al-Assad, along with Libya and few other Arab nations support War with Israel, the majority don't The mentioned states are satellite regimes for the USA, who established peace with Israel on the account that "Israel is here to stay" and "let us do the best out of it". Hence, they oppressed their people under that logo plus receiving US funds as support. Egypt and Jordan are the second and third most funded governments by the US for signing peace treaties. Such victories, destabilize Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt whereby the oppressed majorities can dream of ousting their tyrants and boycott Israel.

The questions goes: how long Israel plans to distort history, for 1948 has its impact on all Arab worlds, specially Lebanon. How long they plan to remain racists and Zionists, after all Racism and Zionism go hand in hand with each other. The underdogs in a military sense are catching up, once the underdogs know how to shoot down Israeli planes, Israel's very existence is threatened with extermination and the Jewish Proletariat are threatened with another ethnic cleansing as a payback for what their Zionist leaders pushed to do throughout the British mandate. The on-going atrocities do not help on the Palestinians. Furthermore, how long can those US satellite regimes hold on, and haven't they realized the more the Israelis are brutal, the more secular and progressive forces are purged or shoved into Islamic movements, like Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Muslim Brotherhoods. Finally, Hezbollah's victories sustained the Assad regime to rule for the next decade or two with maximum peace inside his lands and oppress his own people; specially the British themselves declared that Assad is different than Saddam. The reason for this is the fact that the alternative to Assad's regime in Syria would be the three more oppressive, the Muslim Brotherhood.

Last, I hope Nasrallah would live as long as possible, because the scariest of all is the relations of Hezbollah to Ali Khamanei through the Iranian funds and Wilayat el Faqih. If Nasrallah passes away, the option is not a moderate tolerant leader like Hassan Nasrallah, rather the extremist Na'im Qassem who, all Hezbollah's allies on grassroots level from pro-Hezbollah Palestinians, Syrians, Aounis, and even the SSNP, expressed that "all hell would break loose if he takes control."

Unwanted Palestinians

What were most disgusting about 14th of March, the Opposition, Hezbollah, the Lebanese President, and others is their behavior: "Palestinians are not welcomed to stay here" hence the "Liberation".

Finally

With Nasrallah declaring that the war with Israel is an open war, following Moghnieh's assassination, and promising us future wars, paralleled with Israel's nutcases such as Olmert and Perez that new wars are coming up as retributions, a doomed nation like Lebanon has no choice but to wait for the next disaster.

MFL

16 comments:

Lalebanessa said...

Hi MFL, welcome back, your blogging was missed.

My problem with the issue is this: assuming for a moment that Kuntar didn't kill the girl and her father as the Isrealis said, there is still the issue of the 1500 Lebanese (300 of whom were children) who died for his release.

Hence the issue is not only how Hizballah obtained Samir Kuntar's release, but also at what price.

Renegade Eye said...

As usual Lebanessa has a point.
Good analysis of the current situation in Lebanon.

Israel is talking with Hamas essentially unconditionally. They are being turned into police of Palestine, taking full responsibility for any cease fire. Neither of us are surprised that Islamists want to just make a deal.

Obama spent 45 minutes in Gaza, and 30 hours in Israel. The speech he gave in Germant about tearing down walls, should have been given in Israel.

My comrades are having their International Congress in Barcelona. Ironically Hugo Chavez was in Spain at the same time, and he posed in pictures with them. He spent time with AW, because of his new book against Venezuelan reformists within. AW spoke in front of thousands. The danger in Venezuela, is the masses tiring after 10 yrs of speeches.

Regards.

razan said...

Lalebanessa
Allow me to say few things about your comment: "there is still the issue of the 1500 Lebanese (300 of whom were children) who died for his release."

you're assuming that July war was launched by Hezbolla to release Kuntar, and that's weird cause as far as I know, what Hezbolla did was kidnapping two soldiers, and a war was launched on Lebanese (Shiaas mostly). Unless of course you think it is normal for one to launch a war on a whole country for the kidnapping of two.
So hezbolla did not launch a war to release anyone at the time, it defended itself, and Lebanon, against Israel's aggressive bombards.

Second, when hezbolla defended Lebanon and itself, it did have the advantage to return prisoners, not Kuntar, but 199 prisoners mostly Arabs and that says a lot about how Hezbolla is building up an Arab psyche, a defense strategy, a whole new understanding of Israeli occupation and a regional defense against it.

I think that's pretty much a historical event in itself in the region. It has a lot of impact on Israel's self-image, which plays a big role in the Israeli psyche, and within the Israeli system.
Israel is not an enemy in the "arab" meaning of the word, it is strategically enemy cause it is a colonial power, European occupation of homogenous people, again and again, no one stood against it but hezbolla, I have many reservations on the rhetoric of hezbolla internally, but regionally and internationally, I feel safer because I am threatened, and I have the right to be, by any colonial and imperial interference in the region.

Those people who lost their lives in the July war lost them not because of Hezbolla, but because of a colonial power that uses crimes to intimidate people, Israel was not defending itself when bombing a school, or civilian homes, it is actually building an argument like yours, to put pressure against anyone who uses power against its colonial power.

what hezbolla did was winning strategically like no one did before, and for those who think Jamal Abd el Naser is a hero, plz spare me this bullshit, he's not even close to what hezbolla achieved in the prisoners' exchange deal, not one bit.

MFL, miss you comrade, eh il halawa di ;-)

Lalebanessa said...

"Unless of course you think it is normal for one to launch a war on a whole country for the kidnapping of two."

Dear Razan,

Wether it is normal or not it is exactly what any person with even a miniscule knowlege of Isreal KNEW Isreal was going to do.
If Hassan Nasrallah and Co didn't KNOW this was going to happen as every other one of us did, then this is another reason to why they shouldn't be planning military maneuvers on behalf of the population.

And on the subject colonial war "launched on us" in july 2006 : if they were waiting for any excuse to launch the war, then more fool are we to continue to fall into their traps.

AS for the Arab "psyche", well excuse me for not wanting to sacrifice Lebanese children for to massage our collective arab's uselessness and its "psyche".

razanghazzawi.com said...

your simplifying israel's reasons why it launched war on lebanon, it was not a "reaction" to the kidnapping of two soldiers, israel did not want to launch a war in the first place, it is a US "action" that pushed israel to bomb lebanon. it is strategical plan to eliminate any force (hezbolla) that might strengthen iran in the region, it's all about iran and iraq, dear Lalebanessa,that's one.

number two, your logic is normalizing the act of launching war if a kidnapping took place, which is actually a western and zionist logic (without your knowledge of course)which says that one should never except arabs, or any, to oppose or even to get near US' interests in the region, that's why Israel is not OK with iran's nuclear weapon whereas it doesnt mind Brazil to have one.
you might not agree with it, but since you're using it as an argument, you do believe it makes sense, and you shouldnt, you should argue against it and argue against "launching" the war in itself than blaming others who you assume they're the reason to.

Lalebanessa said...

Dear Razan,

The issue is indeed simple: Israel is out for itself, America is out for itself, Syria is out for itself, Iran is out for itself, and we Lebanese are being sacrificed in the process, and most of us are quite sick of it.

And by the way, making statements that insinuate that "if you don't agree with me then you are a brainwashed zionist" reduces any form of discussion anyone can have with you to a farce.

Darko said...

Lalebanessa, kuntar's release is a great victory for the resistance and all of Lebanon, it doesn’t matter whether he killed that girl or not, what matters is that the Zionist will has been broken, and asking if it was worth it is a very sleazy attempt to take away from the glory of this achievement, because that question holds Hezbollah responsible for all these casualties, witch he is not. What you should be asking is the following "Was trying to free those two soldiers worth all these deaths? And doest trying to liberate them justify the 33 days old bombing campaign on all of Lebanon?".


Welcome back MFL.
I can’t help but feel that your article has lots of contradiction here. It seems to me that you haven’t really made up your mind about some subjects, at one point you're praising the resistance, and another point you're criticizing Nasrallah's open war speech. Well, at least you're not condemning the release of kuntar.

As for the SSNP security zones, i cant argue with you about that. What i can tell you is that ever since the halba massacre, every ssnper dove into a militaristic mentality, for shit sake, i can no longer see a new building without thinking about the best defense strategy that i can apply to survive longer and same goes for all party's offices. As for the election of Hirdan, well that's just another blow to mainstream SSNP, but at the same time, my friends inside the party all pretty much think the same, they dont like the guy and knows that he has a bad history of assassinating the party's revolutionary cadres during the split, but at the same time he was the one who organized and prepared the operation of most of the partys martyrs including Wajdi al saygh and Sanaa Mhaydli. So the general feeling is that bad times like this need to have people like him in power. And to your information, the SSNP did take part in the July war, especially in marj3youn, i have evidence of that, that I’ll tell you about privately if you're interested.

I didn’t get what you meant about the Palestinians being not welcomed here. I understood what you mean, but i find it strange why you add Hezbollah to the list. The party has a good connection with the Palestinians who are infatuated by Nassrallah. When i attended the burial of three martyrs coming back to Naher Al Bared camp, most of there chants were about the greatness of Hezbollah.

Razan, *clap* *clap*

razanghazzawi.com said...

Dear,
i did say: "your logic is normalizing the act of launching war if a kidnapping took place, which is actually a western and zionist logic (without your knowledge of course)"

the reason i said "without your knowledge of course" is precisely what i meant. i am not saying YOU are Zionist, i am saying you're adapting the logic of Zionism WITHOUT you knowledge! please read me carefully :)

and you're right, Palestine, Iraq, Sudan and Afghanistan are the countries that suffered a lot due to international and regional powers, that's out of the question.

Darko, it does matter if Kuntar killed a little girl, but did he? it's an israeli version, is israel a credible source? definitely not, israel killed tens on children in July war in one day.
its not an issue of defending "our guy" and opposing theirs', the whole israeli version of Samir Kuntar doesn't make sense to me. i am not a defender of killers, nor i believe them, hence i dont believe israel.

razanghazzawi.com said...

and Lebanon* oops!

Lalebanessa said...

"the reason i said "without your knowledge of course" is precisely what i meant. i am not saying YOU are Zionist, i am saying you're adapting the logic of Zionism WITHOUT you knowledge! please read me carefully "

Razan, so now not only am I a Zionist but I am also stupid, well thanks so much oh "enlightened one".
How typical "what you believe you know is right" and what "I believe I have been brainswahed manipultated and tricked into believing".
A little less self-rightousness please.


Darko,
Again, you are so blase with human life.

Last time it was "well a few people can die and that's ok for the sake of the revolution", and now it doesn't matter if a child is killed.

On the contrary my dear, it matters very much if he killed that girl or not. If he killed that 4 year old child in cold blood then he is less than human, and I do not care if he rotted in jail for ever whatever nationality he is.
The only way that I could even fathom a discussion in the matter is if I start off assuming that it was Isreali propaganda and carry on from there.

In fighting zionism, we are fighting the essence of what is wrong: benefitting from injustice and other people's misery. If we descend to their level of killing the innocent to get to what we want, then we become no better than them.

And as for holding hizballah responsible for the casualties, I hold both of them equally responsible, hizballah for starting it without any regard for the consequences (or for stupidly falling into the pre-planned trap- whatever version you prefer), and the Israelis for perpetuating it in their as usual brutal maniac way.

As for the SSNP,you have to be a little more honest with yourself than that. The reason they've gone into that mentality is not only because of the massacre in Halba, it is also a fear of the backlash to the atrocious way they behaved in Beirut: lifting guns and causing death and casualties of their own country's citizens,putting bashar's picture in the media offices they ransacked, burned and closed down by force, hey, one of them even held up a klashnikov in my sister's face and asked for her ID. How tres civil war "revolutionary", but they seemed to have mixed up Beirut with Tel Aviv. Antoun Saade would be really proud.

Darko said...

Last time it was "well a few people can die and that's ok for the sake of the revolution", and now it doesn't matter if a child is killed.
I never said that is it was ok to kill a child, what I’m saying is that Kuntar’s operation did not come out of the blue, he did not attack a peaceful place, his operation was nothing but a consequence. Our war with the Zionists is eternal, and operation like Kuntar’s is the only dialogue that can take place between us. Ajd you cant isolate it from a war that has been raging ever since Zionist militias started carrying systematic terror operations in order to evict the Palestinians out. Acts that including ethnic cleansing against arab villages(Deir yassin and others). My point is that you cant take Kuntar operation out of its normal context and judge its results (whether he killed that girl or not) without taking into consideration the whole history of the war, where Israel continues till this day to kill arab children without any of you people saying a word about it, maybe because it became kind of a routine every time you turn your tv and listen to the news a couple Palestinian kids are killed
On the contrary my dear, it matters very much if he killed that girl or not. If he killed that 4 year old child in cold blood then he is less than human, and I do not care if he rotted in jail for ever whatever nationality he is.
The only way that I could even fathom a discussion in the matter is if I start off assuming that it was Israeli propaganda and carry on from there.

So when its Kuntar & Hezbollah vs. Israel, you’re taking a neutral stand and cant really pick the words of one over the other, but still you have the audacity to say:
In fighting zionism, we are fighting the essence of what is wrong: benefitting from injustice and other people's misery.
Who the hell is we, I’m pretty sure you’re not the one fighting Israel, you’re not the one laying everything you have for that cause. Basically hun, there is no we, there’s Hezbollah and his allies fighting Israel, there’s Israel and then there’s you who just decided to take a neutral stand between the first two.

And as for holding Hezbollah responsible for the casualties, I hold both of them equally responsible, Hezbollah for starting it without any regard for the consequences (or for stupidly falling into the pre-planned trap- whatever version you prefer), and the Israelis for perpetuating it in their as usual brutal maniac way.

Again, taking a neutral stand between the two sides, I bet we will have fun when we find each other in the same pit with bombes signed by Israeli girls passing over our heads

As for the SSNP,you have to be a little more honest with yourself than that. The reason they've gone into that mentality is not only because of the massacre in Halba, it is also a fear of the backlash to the atrocious way they behaved in Beirut: lifting guns and causing death and casualties of their own country's citizens, putting bashar's picture in the media offices they ransacked, burned and closed down by force, hey, one of them even held up a klashnikov in my sister's face and asked for her ID. How tres civil war "revolutionary", but they seemed to have mixed up Beirut with Tel Aviv. Antoun Saade would be really proud.
I condemn what the SSNP goons did in Beirut, but I can assure that the SSNP raising the alarm rate only came after the Halba massacre, that’s not an analyses, that’s based on documents, you’re commented shows that you don’t know anything about that situation, so you’re just using that thinking you can gain some points over me by playing “SSNP rueined Beirut” card. This article can best explain my thoughts about the events that took place in Beirut:
http://www.alqawmi.com/_News.php?cAction=Details&Archive=0&NewsID=194
Not all SSNPers agreed with what happened, and I’m really sorry for what happened with your sister, its totally unacceptable. But still, whether we agree with what happened or not, every SSNPer has been affected by the Halba massacre and that why everybody has geared up and is getting ready for a fight and the includes mainstream SSNP as well as Abid Al massih People(witch is splinter group also called SSNP but with different leadership) and here I’m being honest with you and with myself

Lalebanessa said...

Dear Darko,

Who are the SSNP preparing to fight? Isreal or other Lebanese? Are we due for some more killing and butchering on all sides? How wondeful.Aren't you sick of this gory glory mentality yet? Aren't you sick of all the bloodshed and destruction yet? You must be young still, talk to me again in 10-20yrs and we'll see how you feel.

Neither the rapidly dwindling SSNP nor the Hizbos are going to solve the Isreali problem. Hizbo is causing them psychological damage like never before, but it is unfortunately physical damage that wins wars in the end, and the hizbos, despite all of their rhetoric caused only minimal physical damage in Isreal while Lebanon was torn to shreds.

Again , the question is: was it worth it? The answer to you seems to be yes, for me it was not worth all the death and destruction in Lebanon to gain "points" against the Isrealis.

If you look South, you will notice you haven't liberated palestine yet, and YOU won't. The only people who will liberate Palestine are the Palestinians. And I promise you , once they do, they're going to tell you that you need a visa and a security check before you can come and visit their country.

And by the way you insult every person who ever fought in the name of palestinians without using a gun. You insult every person who ever wrote an article, or sent money, or informed, or rallied to their 'cause. And guess what, increasing awareness of their plight is what is going to change the situation in the end, not fighting the Isrealis bil-ni2aifeh and then celebrating winning holy wars by dancing on the graves of 1500 of your own citizens.

Darko said...

Here you go again claiming to be part of the resistance to Israel. Look Dear, Naji Al ali and Jozeph Smeha were part of the resistance, mahmoud darwish, Azmi Bshara and As'ad Aabu Khalil are part of the resistance MFL is part of the resistance, you on the other hand are just another one of those "Liberals" who like to think that they're opposing Israel by their own special way of undermining the achievements of the real resistance, playing your self righteous card and your neutral stand between Hezbollah and Israel is the best proof to that.

And by the way, that statement Hizbo is causing them psychological damage like never before, but it is unfortunately physical damage that wins wars in the end
is completely false, if you have ever read any history book you would have realized what a dumb statement that is, over 70% of France was destroyed during world war II but still they managed to get of the war "victorious"

As for the SSNP, you got it wrong again, they're not gearing up to attack, they're gearing up to defend themselves. And while we did not liberate Palestine YET, we along with rest of secular resistance movements played a big role in liberating the south and we were the ones who liberated Beirut while your current allies were being complemented by Sharon on the fine Lebanese cuisine that they showed him.

I Suggest you pick up some history books and get acquainted with the real truth and not the one offered by CNN and Al arabyah

Lalebanessa said...

Darko,

If you want to insult me furthur my dear darko, please don't call me a liberal,call me a Realist, I prefer that insult much more.

"over 70% of France was destroyed during world war II but still they managed to get of the war "victorious".

Ha ha ha, maybe you should re-read the history books, the frenchies needed a "little help" to come out victorious,and from people with alot bigger guns and manpower than you will ever have.

And dear Darko, I never claimed to be part of the resistance, the only true resistance is that done by the Palestinians, whatever else we do is just help and support.

Those who fought the Israelis when they were on Lebanese land released LEBANON, there was no viable way that that could have exteneded it to Palestine.
Stop living in your daydream world.

I've told you once, and I'll tell you again, only the Palestinians are going to liberate their country. We (yes including you) will only ever be secondary actors to the true Palestinan Resistance.
Everything else is just typical male-loaded testosterone chest thumping. Yeh, Assad Hardan is going to liberate Palestine ha ha ha.

PS I like how you now love Azmi Bshara when you lot all called him a traitor at first for joining the Knesset....ah the hypocrisy of it all

Anonymous said...

go go Razan!!!!!!!!!!!!! u win 10 -0

Anonymous said...

lalebanessa is right. Hezbollah are a pile of worthless trash, as are their supporters, and they are all aware of this, which is why they have to act like barbaric savages every time they suspect someone is going to remind them that they are worthless trash. Remember when that comic actor on lbc dressed up as Hassan Nasrallah during a humerous impersonation? It resulted in hezbollah mobs terrorizing the streets, followed by a speech on 'how to be moral' by Nassrallah the next day. So down went freedom of expression for the non hezbo crowd. But then that wasn't enough. When the non hizbo authorities discovered that the hizbo airport guy in charge of 'security' was a syrian informer, along with the indie telecoms network to to help track down the non-hezbo free thinkers, it all resulted in the hezbo trash shooting people down dead in order to shut them up. the only mistake israel made in the last war was that it didn't annihilate the hezbo garbage. fuck them